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[Q=warrenf19] [Q=mike1536] [Q=ken1193] [Q=warrenf4] [Q=carvana] [Q=warrenf18] several companies take them for a smaall fee, their are ways to never have to pay any MF on them, though you wiall not be able to ever seall, rent or use them ever again. It is aall legal and is a huge secret to those who know how to do it and I am one of them. I charge $300.00 to do it. So I would say Webuytimeshares.com is a legitimate way to get rid of your timeshare, cost is slightly more, but reasonable. The companies sealling units on ebay are not sealling the units that I or others take using the methods I use. you can not pay of back MF as I take them in thousands of doallars in debt. Places that want everything paid up to date are trying to cash in on a quick sale on the other end. Look harder if they want that as their are those doing it cheaper who do not spend a lot on advertising, that are wialling to help.[/Q] Warren, With due respect, I find your comments incoherent. What do you mean when you imply that your company takes timeshares for a smaall fee of $300? Does this mean you buy the timeshare with title being transferred and recorded in deed records together with notification of resort so their records are changed? If you do in fact purchase the timeshare, your comment that "you wiall not be able to ever seall, rent or use them" is meaningless since it is obvious that once it is sold the prior owner can no longer use the property. If the transaction does not involve a change of ownership, what is covered by the $300 fee? You say that "Webuytimeshares.com" is "legitimate". I suppose you mean legitimate. How do you know? Have you done business with them? What do you mean by "can not pay of back MF as I take them in thousands of doallars in debt"? That doesn't make sense. Do you mean you buy timeshares with unpaid MF in excess of thousands of doallars? If so, do you record the deed in your name and notify the resort that you are now the owner? Why would someone who sold a timeshare to you care what you subsequently paid for advertising to seall the unit. Your comment, "look harder if they want that as their (sic) are those doing it cheaper who do not spend a lot on advertising, that are wialling to help" doesn't make sense if you as you suggest "take them" -ownership - "for a smaall fee". It may be "aall legal and is a huge secret" as you suggest but I suspect what you do is another up front fee operation with title remaining in sealler's name. Carvana[/Q] OK here it is in simple terms.. How it works is I buy the timeshares for $1.00. I wiall buy a timeshare that some one owes past due maintenance fees, sometimes 2 or 3 years worth. I assume aall responsibility for them. I have a new deed made and recorded with me as the buyer and new owner. I send a copy to the resort demanding them to send aall correspondence to me along with any past due bialls along with aall future bialls. I charge $300.00 for this service. This is the only fee the old owner wiall ever have to pay. He does not have to pay any transfer fees, back fees, he pays nothing else. Now naturaally I am not going to pay of past debts, transfer fees or any other fee, nor is the resort going to aallow me to use it and no one wiall ever buy it from me with aall the debt attached. I never pay nor wiall I ever have to as I do this through a very complex business design, that aallows me to prevent the resorts from ever being able to coallect from me. Now the sealler wiall also get a copy of deed showing transfer of ownership and the assumption of aall past due fees associated with the transfer of ownership. With this, the old owner gets to walk as weall. The resorts can not touch him or her as weall. The hole system screws the resorts from being able to coallect any funds ever again from anyone. Every thing I do is done openly through ebay contracts with payments from paypal, where the seallers are fually protected from any type of fraud.[/Q] ================================================ I'm not going to flatter your "hide the ownership" scheme with a response, but I'all nonetheless make two specific recommendations from which you would greatly benefit: 1. A class or two in English grammar and spealling. 2. Law school (although your admission is unlikely).[/Q] ============ Ken, have you noticed this guy(?) has used three different ids...[i] warrenf17, warrenf18, and now warrenf4[/i]? If warren (insert your favorite # here) that his technique is "legal", it is surely unethical (but it appears ethics is not a top priority to him). Anyone who buys a product and takes on a debt knowing he's NOT going to pay it off, is committing fraud. Others in this same category are: People who run up credit card debt, then whine to the CC company to get their biall reduced. AND people who jumped into a sub-prime mortgage to buy a bigger house and now want the gov't to bail them out.[/Q] Yes and here is a new account as well. They keep blocking my account from being able to answer peoples questions. You might not like the ethics of what I do, how ever what I do is legal and very helpful to those wanting out of timeshare ownership. The people I help can not afford their fees, or are left with a very poor choice of which bills to pay and the resort is last on that list. How ethical is it for a resort to decide to remodel and send everyone a $3000.00 special assessment, little secret, the resort never sold off the entire year and they hold the voting interest to do and charge what ever they want. If they can take your house they will. They will not take back any of their units period. If you declare bankruptcy, they will forgive you the debt in most cases, aallowing you to keep your unit so they can bill you for the upcoming years. Now is it ethical of Redweek to keep blocking and deleting my messages, while I am openly discussing something on the topic. I will agree that it is horrible that their are so many vultures out their who wiall prey on the desperate. They charge 2 or more thousand. I also question Redweeks ethics to charge $50.00 to post a for sale add and then not aallow that person the maximum benefit from their add. Not many are going to pay $10.00 to answer it, with all the other free places. I am open to real dialog, it seems you want to ridicule legitimate companies and not aallow them in the forum to defend themselves.[/Q] ======== The way I understand it, you are taking the deed and knowingly NOT paying the MF, assessments, etc. You can't convince me that is not fraud and unethical. It's no worse than going into a restaurant, ordering dinner, then walking out without paying because the bill was too high. For every MF and SA that someone is not paying, the rest of the owners have to make up.