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Has anyone dealt with Pacific Transfer inc. or selltimeshare.org ?
THey completed my 'donation to a charity' but it took them 18 months to do it. I had to contact the BBB in their area and the California Attorney General to finally get it taken care of. I did get a small tax deduction because it did go to a legitimate charity.
DO NOT WORK WITH THEM. THEY WANT MONEY UP FRONT AND DO NOT ANSWER PHONE CALLS NOR EMAILS.
Go with Resort Closings out of Montana. Up front and legit. They work with Donate for a Cause. I've used them for two timeshares that I got rid of. Always answer emails and phone calls and do not want money up front. You donate it and get a small tax deduction and it takes about three months total to get it done! You can donate to the charity of your choice.
R M.
I attended a seminar on 4/22/12 with The Cure Company dba Timeshare Cure Company. affiliated with Pacific Transfer. I paid $4,495 to get out of my membership with Royal Holiday Club. Once all my timeshare documents were received, I received notice from a company called Timeshare Cure informing me that Pacific Transfer would be handling my account. The day of the seminar, the company representative checked with management to make sure that Royal Holiday Club was part of the relief program, it was, I signed and paid. It is now 9/6/13 and everytime I call Pacific Transfer I am told my file is in "legal action" and will be processed soon. it is now 18 months since I paid and to date have had no relief. I might add that according to the contract I signed, if the maintenance fee came due within 180 days of contract signing, I, the "client" had to pay it. I did and now I'm out $5,495 and am not even able to use the time I paid for. I have been contacting just about every affiliation with Pacific Transfer to no avail. The BBB has no record of this company, so I guess I will take the responses I've seen here to contact the AG and file my complaint.
BOTTOM LINE - Don't be taken.
Anna-Maria F.
WE ARE IN THE SAME SITUATION , I SIGNEDA CONTRACT IN NOV OF 2013 , PAID MY MAINTANANCE FEES FOR 2013 , AND NOW A YEAR LATER THEY ARE REFUSING TO PAY THE 2014 FEES , SAYING I AM IN BREACH OF CONTRACT .I AM FINDING THIS TO BE A SCAM . CONTACT ME IF YOU LIKE . 403-704-1204 , KELLY
Kelly M.
Yes, I have and its been horrific. I have 1 timeshare program and 1 vacation membership. My timeshare program was with Summer Bay, Clermont, FL. Pacific Transfer allegedly did transfer my property and I received confirmation of the transfer. However, I still get notifications as a member from Summer Bay so I truly do not know if I still own or not.
My 2nd contract was for membership in a vacation club known as Royal Holiday Club. The last time I was able to communicate with Pacific I was told that this transaction was in their Legal Department and they were working on it.
My contract with Pacific was entered into at a seminar presentation at the Marriott Hotel, Farmington, CT in April 2012. All in all, I allowed approximately $8,500 to be charged to my credit card. It is now almost 2 years since my contract and like you, I have been unable to reconnect with this company. I have left e-mails, telephone messages, etc. I have tried every way to contact Pacific to no avail. I even sent e-mails to the "supposed" owners of the company and never received responses.
Yes, I would love to file with the AG of the States - both CT and CA for this wrongful action. If there are others who would like to challenge this fraudulent company, we can all file a Class Action or whatever it takes to get our money back.
I believe we have been totally taken for a scam.
Anna-Maria F.
Wow - Did you and I attend the same seminar? I also have had absolutely no luck in ridding myself of my membership in the Royal Holiday Club. Like you, I also paid close to $5,000 to the representative who dealt with me at the seminar held in Farmington, CT in April 2012.
Anything you may decide to do, please let me know. I certainly would like to not only recoup my $5,000 + or -, but would love to see this company pay for what it has done to us.
Anna-Maria F.
This is why everyone should stay away from any timeshare relief company claiming that claims they can get you out of your timeshare contract for a huge fee ..... they're all scams.
It's too bad the previous posters didn't research those types of scams before dealing with them.
R P.
In reading all the postings regarding Pacific Transfer, I saw that some people did contact the Attorney General to file a complaint. I have not seen any postings as to what, if anything, the AG did to help.
With all the postings on record, it may be time for all of us to contact the AG as a group rather than individually. Would anyone like to do this? Does anyone have the correct address for the AG of California?
I have received another maintenance bill from Royal Holiday Club due this month. When I called RHC, I was informed that it is my responsibility to pay it as there is no record of contact from Pacific Transfer. The only good thing I can hopefully see out of this is that according to the Pacific contract, I believe it is now in default with me as the specific timeframe has passed. At this point I have decided to stay with RHC but definitely would like to pursue any action possible with the AG.
kellym575 wrote:WE ARE IN THE SAME SITUATION , I SIGNEDA CONTRACT IN NOV OF 2013 , PAID MY MAINTANANCE FEES FOR 2013 , AND NOW A YEAR LATER THEY ARE REFUSING TO PAY THE 2014 FEES , SAYING I AM IN BREACH OF CONTRACT .I AM FINDING THIS TO BE A SCAM . CONTACT ME IF YOU LIKE . 403-704-1204 , KELLY
Anna-Maria F.
Don't forget to file complaints with the California Bureau of Real Estate.
http://www.dre.ca.gov/consumers/filecomplaint.html
People write the Attorney General, but the department that oversees real estate in any state has a lot of power in regards to shutting a company down.
Also, you can find three of the companies owned by the same people who own Pacific Transfer listed in ongoing investigations here:
http://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/attachments/press-releases/ftc-and-dozens-law-enforcement-partners-halt-travel-and-timeshare-resale-scams-multinational-effort/130606timesharechartactions.pdf
Transfer Smart and Vacation Smart International on page 3, and Donate Title AKA Resort Member's Association on page 4.
J V.
I, and many others that have posted on the tugbbs.com timeshare board, have had issues when buying timeshares from this outfit. The company goes by the following names: Luky 987 / SellTimeshare.org / Pacific Transfer. They sell a lot of timeshares on eBay. In summary, I recommend staying away from them.
see these threads:
http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198561&highlight=selltimeshare.org
http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189843&highlight=selltimeshare.org http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201996&highlight=selltimeshare.org
David B.
Last edited by davidb755 on Feb 09, 2014 12:38 PM
davidb755 wrote:I, and many others that have posted on the tugbbs.com timeshare board, have had issues when buying timeshares from this outfit. The company goes by the following names: Luky 987 / SellTimeshare.org / Pacific Transfer. They sell a lot of timeshares on eBay. In summary, I recommend staying away from them.
They also go by these names: Pacific Property Transfer Grey Wolf Transfers Transfer Smart Vacation Smart International Timeshare Cure The Cure Resort Member's Association Donate Title Right Choice Transfer
Unfortunately the list continues to expand as time goes on.
J V.
have been dealing with this company since 2011, november. again we attended a seminar and got talked into selling our timeshare in new orleans with a company called transfer smart, we paid 4200 dollars for this privelege. we paid the maintainence fee for 2012, since it was due in jan. received some e-mails from them in the beginning but had to keep calling them to get progress updates. they kept giving me reasons why it was taking so long..in jan of 2013, my maintanence fee bill arrived, i called the company and told them i was not paying it because according to the contract they were liable for all payments after 90 days. they did pay the maintenence fee and mailed all the paperwork we needed to process the closure. we sent everything back immediately, notarized with signature confirmation from the post office, so they could not claim they never received it. it is now feb of 2014, still waiting, maintenence fee for 2014 due and no response to calls or emails, multiple messages left with no answer. what a ripoff!!!!!!!! i called my timeshare company and they have no record of any pending transfer, when i asked how the maint fee was paid, they said with a mastercard and that was all the information they had.
Ellen G.
Contact your Attorney General and file a complaint. Also, contact the California Department of Real Estate and file a complaint with them as well. You can file online here:
http://www.dre.ca.gov/consumers/filecomplaint.html
I suggest you call in and speak with an investigator at the DRE though, it may be more helpful.
Also, just for good measure you should file a complaint with the FTC, since they're aware of the multiple cases against these companies.
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-1
elleng127 wrote:have been dealing with this company since 2011, november. again we attended a seminar and got talked into selling our timeshare in new orleans with a company called transfer smart, we paid 4200 dollars for this privelege. we paid the maintainence fee for 2012, since it was due in jan. received some e-mails from them in the beginning but had to keep calling them to get progress updates. they kept giving me reasons why it was taking so long..in jan of 2013, my maintanence fee bill arrived, i called the company and told them i was not paying it because according to the contract they were liable for all payments after 90 days. they did pay the maintenence fee and mailed all the paperwork we needed to process the closure. we sent everything back immediately, notarized with signature confirmation from the post office, so they could not claim they never received it. it is now feb of 2014, still waiting, maintenence fee for 2014 due and no response to calls or emails, multiple messages left with no answer. what a ripoff!!!!!!!! i called my timeshare company and they have no record of any pending transfer, when i asked how the maint fee was paid, they said with a mastercard and that was all the information they had.
J V.
rugerk wrote:I purchase a timeshare on e-bay from selltimeshare.org and they are using Pacific Transfer inc. for escrow and title here in calif. I'm having a hard time with them we have e-mail some but they are not returning my phone calls. Its been to months and I still don't know when I will get the timeshare. Please tell me what you all think. if I don't hear from them soon I'm going to file papers with the Att. gen. in both states i guess fla and calif. and small claim court i guess. I,m in calif.
I know this e-mail is over a year old but, we have sold (pops, paid a company to take our timeshare off of our hands - $5000) named RMA which is supposedly at the address 2241 W 190th Street in Torrance CA. Is Pacific Transfer just another name for RMA? Did you get any results? RMA has not done anything to transfer the TS out of our name. Has anyone else heard of RMA? They may just be closed for President's Day but when I called them today all I get is the answering machine (my phone call is VERY important to them) and told to leave a message and someone will get back to me. We'll see. Would like to know from any others who have dealt with RMA.
Mari Y.
mariy5 wrote:I know this e-mail is over a year old but, we have sold (pops, paid a company to take our timeshare off of our hands - $5000) named RMA which is supposedly at the address 2241 W 190th Street in Torrance CA. Is Pacific Transfer just another name for RMA? Did you get any results? RMA has not done anything to transfer the TS out of our name. Has anyone else heard of RMA? They may just be closed for President's Day but when I called them today all I get is the answering machine (my phone call is VERY important to them) and told to leave a message and someone will get back to me. We'll see. Would like to know from any others who have dealt with RMA.
RMA or Resort Member's Association is one of the many company names these people use. If you'll read back a few posts you'll see some of the other names they operate under. I've posted some additional information as well in regards to lawsuits and investigations.
RMA also known as Donate Title is in an ongoing investigation in the state of Connecticut. Another one of their companies is just now in some hot water with the MO Attorney General as well:
http://ago.mo.gov/newsreleases/2014/AG_Koster_sues_California_telemarketer_violating_no_call/
Anyway, you could consider filing complaints against these companies with your Attorney General, the California DRE and the Federal Trade Commission.
J V.
You posted you were going to file a complaint with the BBB and contact the Attorney's General, what was the result? I am having the same problem with Pacific Transfer and I would just like to void my contract with Pacific Transfer and donate the time share to a company that will take it for free.
rm229 wrote:I've been caught up with the non-profit donation. It is okay that they transfer it to an individual, as my resort, Raintree, will not transfer to anything else right now. However, they want the 2013 maintenance dues to be paid. No way. They are not due until May. I think we have all received this letter from them wanting dues to be paid with no care in this world about when they are actually due. I have filed a complaint with the BBB and will next go to the California Attorney General and Consumer Affairs. I did get a signed appraisal for taxes, but I may get audited over it. It amounted to a very small amount for the deduction. Someone tried to call me today, but all I could get in returning the call was voice mail-which is typical with this company. To those who did transfer...was it ever actually transferred out of your name?
Kathy B.
To all those who have worked with Pacific Transfer Inc., I am dealing with RMA for the same problems. They must have ONE HUGE office. RMA, Pacific Transfer, Vacation Smart and I am sure Selltimeshares.org are all there. I have written them a letter requesting my money back within 72 hours. We'll see (ha ha). I have told them I would go to the Attorney Generals of CA and CO, the FBI to investigate for fraud, the investigative TV stations, and several other resources. I also recommend that everyone who gets any kind of newsletter from their resort send an note that if anyone gets a invite to one of any of these companies to go and at the end get up and tell the group what a ripoff these companies are. Get the word out. Also have a couple of other resources I will go thru. Won't tell you what just yet because I'll bet you these THUGS read our e-mails. I'm angry and these people (all of them) should be put out of business and be prosecuted for fraud, lying and hurting all the people they have before they skip. Get angry people and get active.
Mari Y.